Doing a 20vt swap for a customer. Going to start it at about a 225hp so it's reliable and doesn't have issues. Going to use an MC2 motor and do a rebuild so it's fresh. Should still be a fairly quick wagon when done. Don't worry, your mounts and bushings won't be delayed with this in the works
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1986 4000cs Turbo Quattro 2001 Dodge Dakota R/T Standard Cab 1990 V8 quattro 1995 urS6
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Which is exactly what my customer wants. We're starting the car out with stock power to see how he likes it but then I'll do the basic upgrades such as ECM and spring/adjustable wastegate. Ultimately, it's going to end up with 225-250 crank. I told him I dont want to go any more than that due to reliability issues considering I know all too well lol
1986 4000cs Turbo Quattro 2001 Dodge Dakota R/T Standard Cab 1990 V8 quattro 1995 urS6
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Need a complete MC2 Engine, CIS, Engine Harness, and ECM (preferably chipped)
Willing to travel to Seattle, Montana, Southern Idaho, Oregon or other states for the right price. I believe I can cram this thing into the back of the v8q's boot so snow or w/e shouldnt be an issue on the roads.
At worse, I can pull the head to make it fit or use straps to keep the lid shut
1986 4000cs Turbo Quattro 2001 Dodge Dakota R/T Standard Cab 1990 V8 quattro 1995 urS6
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Should be an interesting project. Is there a reason you are sticking with CIS?
"If you can't find one, make one"
Dallastown, PA 1991 Audi 80 quattro (20vt project) 1991 Audi Coupe Quattro (project: my first 20v) 2007 Mitsubishi Raider(Dakota in disguise) 2019 Chevy Cruze RS hatch (wife's little red sporty car)
If he needs quantum parts, just saw a quantum synchro at a junkyard in Lake Stevens, WA. Bit of a drive from Idaho though, and it wasn't in particularly great shape.
Well we really dont need QSW parts, mainly just conversion parts. I found an engine and harness. Going to get with GTjeff for a chipped ECM after the swap is done.
Motor is getting completely redone and rebuilt.
1986 4000cs Turbo Quattro 2001 Dodge Dakota R/T Standard Cab 1990 V8 quattro 1995 urS6
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Went and picked up the donor car yesterday. Other than the body damage, it's in pretty decent shape and drives really nice. I forgot what a 20vt felt like lol!
1986 4000cs Turbo Quattro 2001 Dodge Dakota R/T Standard Cab 1990 V8 quattro 1995 urS6
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Yeah, that makes a world of differance when it comes to swapping engines!
"If you can't find one, make one"
Dallastown, PA 1991 Audi 80 quattro (20vt project) 1991 Audi Coupe Quattro (project: my first 20v) 2007 Mitsubishi Raider(Dakota in disguise) 2019 Chevy Cruze RS hatch (wife's little red sporty car)
Sounds like the engine runs good. In my opinion to maximize reliability I would just drop it straight in. No rebuild, head porting, big valves, MSL hg, ARP studs or any of that crap. For the 220 hp, just install a good intercooler, exhaust, chip, relayed fuel pump.
GTJeff wrote:Sounds like the engine runs good. In my opinion to maximize reliability I would just drop it straight in. No rebuild, head porting, big valves, MSL hg, ARP studs or any of that crap. For the 220 hp, just install a good intercooler, exhaust, chip, relayed fuel pump.
Not even a MLS at the bare minimum? Thats pretty much all I did for mine along with ARP studs. Everyone is different though.
I learned the hard way to at least install a MLS head gasket. My factory head gasket didn't even last 5k miles at higher than stock boost levels.
"If you can't find one, make one"
Dallastown, PA 1991 Audi 80 quattro (20vt project) 1991 Audi Coupe Quattro (project: my first 20v) 2007 Mitsubishi Raider(Dakota in disguise) 2019 Chevy Cruze RS hatch (wife's little red sporty car)
Well, it's getting an MLS headgasket for sure. The motor has 225k on it to begin with so I'm sure once he decides to spend money on the performance parts, the motor needs to be ready. I've decided against building the head as he isn't going to see high rpms and ridiculous boost levels like I was seeing on mine.
The budget, right now, is only allowing for a motor rebuild, urq Airbox/igloo assembly, misc parts, and labor. No HPR goodies other than a 20vt Michelin Man hose at this point unfortunately. Hopefully those will come later as money allows
1986 4000cs Turbo Quattro 2001 Dodge Dakota R/T Standard Cab 1990 V8 quattro 1995 urS6
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Maybe I was being a little brash about the MLS gasket. It probably is good insurance. How I have kept mine together is by keeping an eye on AFRs and detonation. I would bet money that most of the blown hgs are due to det. Maybe the hg goes before the pistons melt so you are better off with the paper hg. Ha!
put a MLS gasket with headstuds and call it a day if you want it to actually run and be reliable.
current: -mk4 tdi wagon with some mods -TDI b3 90q, holset turbo, be strong little connecting rods! -the turbo tractor past: -11 second 90q junker -20vt swapped 90q winter beater -efi 20vt 4kq -way too many other long gone urs's, 200's 4000's, b5's