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Posted: Sat Sep 26, 2009 6:40 pm
by Toxcheap
loxxrider wrote:See a 35r is only a 61mm comp inducer.

BUT, is that 630whp on an I5 20v (destroked) or a 2.0l "1.8t"?


2.0L 4 cylinder, but on c16 I believe it could only make 570 (iirc) sure only 61mm inducer, but 82mm exducer. This car has serious work done to it too.
Most quattro's with 3582's fall into the 550whp

Posted: Sat Sep 26, 2009 6:44 pm
by zerb
damn aaron, you cant escape the mike hood compar-o's, lol. that car that Tox is refering to is mike a4 that makes 630whp on a 2.0l, 83.5mm bore, 20v 4banger, with a 3582r on it.


i think

Posted: Sat Sep 26, 2009 6:49 pm
by Toxcheap
zerb wrote:damn aaron, you cant escape the mike hood compar-o's, lol. that car that Tox is refering to is mike a4 that makes 630whp on a 2.0l, 83.5mm bore, 20v 4banger, with a 3582r on it.


Well it has set the bar for an audi and 3582 imo. :wink:

Posted: Sat Sep 26, 2009 6:52 pm
by Frank the quattro tank
You forgot about Javad's car in its current state. Not 3582 wise, but Audi wise, I think that Javad has you beat.

Posted: Sat Sep 26, 2009 6:52 pm
by loxxrider
Does anyone ever weld the water passages on 1.8t's? I hear in E30 land they like to do that so the head doesn't lift.

Posted: Sat Sep 26, 2009 7:01 pm
by Toxcheap
Frank the quattro tank wrote:[/quote]
You forgot about Javad's car in its current state. Not 3582 wise, but Audi wise, I think that Javad has you beat.[/quote]
you're confused

Posted: Sat Sep 26, 2009 8:13 pm
by speeding-g60
loxxrider wrote:Does anyone ever weld the water passages on 1.8t's? I hear in E30 land they like to do that so the head doesn't lift.


how would the head get cooling then?

lets wait a few weeks til i steal the time to take off the head. you can bet the next time she gives me 4 hours imma do it.

but on the explosive last vid, you can see where it exited the head. front corner intake side. lucky it did not blow up the car, as that is where the fuel cell is :o

and Myke, sorry big fella, i am not in too much a hurry to fix it again. i tried like hell the last two times. not goin to do it in a hurry now.

looking into O-ringing the block. so anyone have info on that pertaining to the 1.8T 20v, shoot me with some of it.

Posted: Sat Sep 26, 2009 8:17 pm
by speeding-g60
one other thing....

Mike has his dyno pulled in 4th gear... mine has only ever been in third gear. and we ALL KNOW that 4th gear is the better gear to pull with on the dyno....

and sure, we can set mike as the goal for the 4cyl, its top dawg for 4cyl Quattro cars AFAIK.

Posted: Sat Sep 26, 2009 8:29 pm
by speeding-g60
here is a couple 3rd gear pulls.... THIRD GEAR.

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Posted: Sat Sep 26, 2009 9:56 pm
by loxxrider
speeding-g60 wrote:
loxxrider wrote:Does anyone ever weld the water passages on 1.8t's? I hear in E30 land they like to do that so the head doesn't lift.


how would the head get cooling then?




They just like weld a support across the passage (similar to a bridgeport setup if you are familiar), and supposedly it keeps the head from flexing from what I gather. My roommate told me about all of this and says there are some pictures of it. I'll see if he can find them.

Posted: Sun Sep 27, 2009 6:36 am
by zerb
Toxcheap wrote:Well it has set the bar for an audi and 3582 imo. :wink:


i wasnt diagreeein with ya at all man. :cheers:


its just that over on audizine whenever anyone has ANY type of setup, its always compared to mikes, which....like everyone has said IS the highest HP 20v 4banger, but peeps get a little out of control with it sometimes.

and holy curve batman, that things gonna fly.

:woowoo:

Posted: Mon Sep 28, 2009 6:22 am
by Wizard-of-OD
hi

Posted: Mon Sep 28, 2009 6:25 am
by Wizard-of-OD
your phone is on auto redial...
still here :-D :lol:

Posted: Mon Sep 28, 2009 5:09 pm
by gvr4
What Head gasket and studs are you running? Don't know if they make them for you but in the dsm world running off the shelf arp is a big no no as they are only 8740. The norm for us is L19s and a fel-pro MLS. Only thing is you have to make sure your block and head have a finish of ra30 or less. I my self hand lap my block and head to a mirror shine. Friends have also been doing the same set up and pushed over 48psi with out the head lifting.

Posted: Mon Sep 28, 2009 5:18 pm
by speeding-g60
MLS Euro big bore gasket and Raceware headstuds.

Posted: Mon Sep 28, 2009 5:26 pm
by gvr4
speeding-g60 wrote:MLS Euro big bore gasket and Raceware headstuds.


What are your studs made of?

Posted: Mon Sep 28, 2009 5:52 pm
by speeding-g60
dunno?

Posted: Mon Sep 28, 2009 6:18 pm
by zerb
interesting questions here....

ill be planning on running 'off the shelf' APR head bolts....but im no where near put together motor wise yet.

Posted: Mon Sep 28, 2009 6:19 pm
by gvr4
I'm going to take a guess and say they are 8740. Don't know if its any help but when I was using the off the shelf ARP's that are 8740 I was lifting the head at 30psi. Now that I am on a Fel-pro mls with ARP L19s and a block and head that have a finish of less than 30ra I am not having any problems. Good luck and hope you get it all fixed and running

Posted: Mon Sep 28, 2009 6:23 pm
by Repaair
gvr4 wrote:What Head gasket and studs are you running? Don't know if they make them for you but in the dsm world running off the shelf arp is a big no no as they are only 8740. The norm for us is L19s and a fel-pro MLS. Only thing is you have to make sure your block and head have a finish of ra30 or less. I my self hand lap my block and head to a mirror shine. Friends have also been doing the same set up and pushed over 48psi with out the head lifting.


How does one hand lap a block or head?

Posted: Tue Sep 29, 2009 4:03 am
by zerb
the best way to find out what there ARP are im assuming would be to call them directly?

Posted: Tue Sep 29, 2009 4:40 pm
by autoxtrëm
We are running raceware Studs as well have seen over 40psi and no headgasket popping at all with oem 1.8t HG. either timimg is way off, head is not straight, or those big bore HG can handle the boost since they come from a NA motor..

i mean you know Aaron ive ran my car alot with good boost and never blew the HG, you make a couple of dyno passes and blow it everytime. :frustrated:

Hope you figure out the problem

Posted: Tue Sep 29, 2009 5:38 pm
by speeding-g60
timing is 19.5 - 20.5 on top....

block was checked prior to this build.

head was checked and milled .006 to flat as well.

Posted: Fri Oct 02, 2009 9:55 am
by speeding-g60
so i pulled the head. and i need a new head again. :(

check out my radiator. it used to be flat/straight... now its bowed a little LOL.

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and this headgasket. hmmmmm....

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Posted: Fri Oct 02, 2009 10:00 am
by my2000apb
dang that thing got toasted hard :frustrated: