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Re: Ed's 1991 CQ, H1C, SEMS, work work work!

Posted: Wed Aug 31, 2011 9:21 am
by jbrentd
Ed, what did you decide on for engine management and intercooler?

Ed's 1991 CQ, H1C, SEMS, work work work!

Posted: Wed Aug 31, 2011 6:31 pm
by Mcstiff
jbrentd wrote:Ed, what did you decide on for engine management and intercooler?


So after months of running the numbers and going back and fourth I settled on VEMS. I was happy with my 034 Ic in the last car and would have loved a IIc but right now, 3 kids & wife in school, the IIc price point was too high. I ended up with the Econoseal V3 from Marc with a VEMS harness and LS2 coils. In all this should be about the same work as an S2 harness but a HUGE savings by skipping the Bosch plug. If I ever go to a IIc it will be easy to adapt the harness. Big thanks to Marc for waiting around for me to make up my mind!

The intercooler will be a medium sized eBay job.

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Re: Ed's 1991 CQ, H1C, SEMS, work work work!

Posted: Wed Aug 31, 2011 6:53 pm
by loxxrider
I don't think you'll want to switch back after you get used to the VEMS ;)

Ed's 1991 CQ, H1C, SEMS, work work work!

Posted: Wed Aug 31, 2011 6:59 pm
by Mcstiff
I'll never say never since updates are always around. For me, price was the main factor and the only way I could keep the project moving.


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Re: Ed's 1991 CQ, H1C, SEMS, work work work!

Posted: Wed Aug 31, 2011 7:14 pm
by PRA4WX
I love it when a plan comes together! ;-)

Ed's 1991 CQ, H1C, SEMS, work work work!

Posted: Wed Aug 31, 2011 7:28 pm
by Mcstiff
Still missing the together part! I need gaskets, TB, fluids, lines & fittings to connect the dots HAHAHA!


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Re: Ed's 1991 CQ, H1C, SEMS, work work work!

Posted: Tue Sep 06, 2011 6:03 am
by Audilard
17 Days!!! Get in the garage!!!!!

Ed's 1991 CQ, H1C, SEMS, work work work!

Posted: Tue Sep 06, 2011 7:21 am
by Mcstiff
Audilard wrote:17 Days!!! Get in the garage!!!!!


Really, 10 days if I want to tune before the drive down :rolleyes:

The good news is that I'll be able to drive down regardless. The bad news is that it may be NA :(


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Re: Ed's 1991 CQ, H1C, SEMS, work work work!

Posted: Tue Sep 06, 2011 9:34 am
by EDIGREG
Nice!!

loxxrider wrote:I don't think you'll want to switch back after you get used to the VEMS ;)


:stupid:

Re: Ed's 1991 CQ, H1C, SEMS, work work work!

Posted: Tue Sep 06, 2011 10:02 pm
by Mcstiff
Labeled the universal VEMS harness tonight. Good use for the wife's label printer :D

Next step is to mock it up around my spare engine.

Still need to track down some of the more common parts (gaskets, SS lines, etc).


:tickTOCK:

Ed's 1991 CQ, H1C, SEMS, work work work!

Posted: Sun Sep 11, 2011 9:45 am
by Mcstiff
Ugh. Little accomplished this weekend :( Did a little work on FMIC mounting, looks like some L brackets on the stock crossmember will work. I have been plotting about installing the VEMS & harness but did not have everything for that until yesterday.

After tomorrow I'll have all the big parts but still need about $300 of stuff to do the install (MLS & gasket set, oil lines and fittings, TB et al, valve seals, intake pipes and fittings, fluids, etc). In the end, it is looking like I'll be in Vegas with a VEMS controlled 7a and a Holset in the trunk :lol:

I 'could' take some shortcuts, not pulling the head, but blowing a headgasket at BBQ2 sounds like less fun than driving a N/A 7a!


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Re: Ed's 1991 CQ, H1C, SEMS, work work work!

Posted: Sun Sep 11, 2011 9:49 am
by Audilard
Mcstiff wrote: In the end, it is looking like I'll be in Vegas with a VEMS controlled 7a and a Holset in the trunk :lol:


I'll be sad if I don't see my old red car again. :wink:

Ed's 1991 CQ, H1C, SEMS, work work work!

Posted: Sun Sep 11, 2011 10:02 am
by Mcstiff
Audilard wrote:
Mcstiff wrote: In the end, it is looking like I'll be in Vegas with a VEMS controlled 7a and a Holset in the trunk :lol:


I'll be sad if I don't see my old red car again. :wink:


It will be a lot like your old car :wink:

If I decide to refocus, concentrating on things that can be done at night without disabling the car, I may get my Porsche seats installed this week, VEMS running and maybe install my AL radiator. I could run the new manifold but risk stunting what little low end the 7a has.


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Ed's 1991 CQ, H1C, SEMS, work work work!

Posted: Tue Sep 13, 2011 3:57 pm
by Mcstiff
:drool:

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Having rods is a bad temptation }:- )

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Re: Ed's 1991 CQ, H1C, SEMS, work work work!

Posted: Tue Sep 13, 2011 4:34 pm
by VWAudi4Life
Must. see. the WG dump tube to frame rail. clearance...

Ed's 1991 CQ, H1C, SEMS, work work work!

Posted: Tue Sep 13, 2011 4:44 pm
by Mcstiff
VWAudi4Life wrote:Must. see. the WG dump tube to frame rail. clearance...


I wish I could put it in tonight!

If it helps the whole thing is <5" wide.


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Re: Ed's 1991 CQ, H1C, SEMS, work work work!

Posted: Tue Sep 13, 2011 5:42 pm
by PRA4WX
mmmmmm tasty! Is it in yet??

Re: Ed's 1991 CQ, H1C, SEMS, work work work!

Posted: Tue Sep 13, 2011 5:55 pm
by Audilard
Hey, I've seen those parts! Very nice Ed now GET TO WORK!!!

Ed's 1991 CQ, H1C, SEMS, work work work!

Posted: Tue Sep 13, 2011 6:03 pm
by Mcstiff
Audilard wrote:Hey, I've seen those parts! Very nice Ed now GET TO WORK!!!


Work is the problem! Wish I could take the week off!


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Re: Ed's 1991 CQ, H1C, SEMS, work work work!

Posted: Tue Sep 13, 2011 8:57 pm
by Mcstiff
A little time spent...

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I had a pic of the exhaust side but the iPhone ate it and everything is packed away now.

This pic is difficult to read but that is an 8 next to my thumb and the WG flex joint can be, just, made out above the stand wheel.

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Daily motivation...


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I need to pickup some wire (NAPA only had 50' spools) and lock down a whole list of gaskets and such to make it happen. Right now I think the worst case could be a VEMS 7a with Hank's intake and we all know the best case!

Re: Ed's 1991 CQ, H1C, SEMS, work work work!

Posted: Tue Sep 13, 2011 9:38 pm
by Mcstiff
One thing that may speed things up, without being too foolish is ditching the A/C for the winter and installing something that fits and uses a modern coolant in the spring. Thoughts? I know the lines would need to be capped to try and keep what stays with the car dry.

Re: Ed's 1991 CQ, H1C, SEMS, work work work!

Posted: Tue Sep 13, 2011 9:48 pm
by Hank
I am kindof nervous about the frame rail. A few people have mentioned it. It fit in the urq just fine so hopefully it works. :).

Want me to bring my old 11mm head studs to Vegas with me? My stroker is using 12mm units. I'll give you a good deal :)

Re: Ed's 1991 CQ, H1C, SEMS, work work work!

Posted: Tue Sep 13, 2011 9:51 pm
by Mcstiff
We'll find out!

Studs are tempting, lets see where this weekend puts me!

Ed's 1991 CQ, H1C, SEMS, work work work!

Posted: Wed Sep 14, 2011 10:12 pm
by Mcstiff
No AC comments eh?

Anyway, Thinking about compression numbers...

12psi+6psi=18*10.3=185.4psi
185.4psi/9.3=19.3-12=6.3psi

7a stock sea level cyl pressures are like 151psi and the stock 3b is about 244psi.

Would it really be dumb to bolt this to the stock 7a longblock? :bashtard:

If not, the worst thing to do would be the oil feed and return (the wiring is time consuming but fairly clean and quiet).

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Re: Ed's 1991 CQ. Injection is nice but I'd rather be blown.

Posted: Thu Sep 15, 2011 5:46 am
by VWAudi4Life
Hmm.. Do stacked head gaskets and ARP head studs, then go for the rod limit :)