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Re: Pat's 1983 URQ Alpine white #603 , 20V in progress
Posted: Fri Jun 22, 2018 9:57 pm
by Afterthought
Working on cleaning the interior and putting the rear of the front end together .
New hood release cable
Trying to clean years of whatever dust and stuff is on the bumper . Since the fenders and everything have brand new L90E I need to do a real good cleanup and polish so the bumper , hood, doors etc are not darker .

Haven’t polished the rear of the bumper yet but will get it this weekend .

Re: Pat's 1983 URQ Alpine white #603 , 20V in progress
Posted: Sun Jun 24, 2018 12:25 am
by mrdeye
Re: Pat's 1983 URQ Alpine white #603 , 20V in progress
Posted: Sun Jun 24, 2018 7:25 pm
by Afterthought
Didn’t quite finish what I wanted to do but I did get a hand from someone to bleed the clutch so I should be able to take the car in for alignment this week .
Replaced my mis-matched taillight .
And started cleaning up the hood . Rewarding process

but time consuming and the entire car needs probably 12 hrs more of detail to look like the leading edge of this hood .
Tested against fenders

Re: Pat's 1983 URQ Alpine white #603 , 20V in progress
Posted: Mon Jun 25, 2018 7:49 pm
by the german
holy crap! that is am amazing difference from polishing.
Re: Pat's 1983 URQ Alpine white #603 , 20V in progress
Posted: Mon Jun 25, 2018 8:57 pm
by chaloux
Wow. Yuck lol
Re: Pat's 1983 URQ Alpine white #603 , 20V in progress
Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2018 8:17 pm
by carl
Damn, you have patience! Looking good though. Have you looked at a farecla gmop? Might be a quicker option if you don't mind cleaning the mess from the water and compound afterwards.
Re: Pat's 1983 URQ Alpine white #603 , 20V in progress
Posted: Wed Jun 27, 2018 10:18 pm
by Afterthought
the german wrote:holy crap! that is am amazing difference from polishing.
I think it was covered In paint overspray or something ? Maybe years of dust .
Either way that’s kind of beat case scenario because it looks bad at first and then I can clean in and realize that there’s nice paint underneath. See a huge difference , it’s a cool process .
Re: Pat's 1983 URQ Alpine white #603 , 20V in progress
Posted: Wed Jun 27, 2018 10:20 pm
by Afterthought
carl wrote:Damn, you have patience! Looking good though. Have you looked at a farecla gmop? Might be a quicker option if you don't mind cleaning the mess from the water and compound afterwards.
I have not seen it but maybe I’ll look into it . It really hasn’t been taking too long to get down to the paint and I’m not having to use an aggressive pad (like wool) with the buffing compound- so it saves me from having to do swirl removing . Only part that sucks is then having to go over again with glaze and wax.
Re: Pat's 1983 URQ Alpine white #603 , 20V in progress
Posted: Wed Jun 27, 2018 10:20 pm
by Afterthought
Re: Pat's 1983 URQ Alpine white #603 , 20V in progress
Posted: Wed Jun 27, 2018 10:26 pm
by Afterthought
Here’s how I’m stuck on the rear . If I remove the bumper insert and factory bumper shocks . I’m left with three holes with a nut welded on the inside .
The euro bumper insider has two fixed studs in it . Obviously I can’t thread a fixed stud into a fixed nut.
So at first I thought I may need to drill out or remove two of the nuts , put the bumper on the support bar and then install the support bar and bolt on the inside accessing from the trunk .
B U T
Those nuts are not accessible from the trunk ( or anywhere ) they’re inside this frame rail thingy.
So I’m at a loss for now .
Fixed studs

Non/removable nuts
Studs line up with hole perfectly
Nuts are inside this square welded tubing inside the trunk .

Re: Pat's 1983 URQ Alpine white #603 , 20V in progress
Posted: Wed Jun 27, 2018 10:37 pm
by FFF
Afterthought wrote:Here’s how I’m stuck on the rear . If I remove the bumper insert and factory bumper shocks . I’m left with three holes with a nut welded on the inside .
The euro bumper insider has two fixed studs in it . Obviously I can’t thread a fixed stud into a fixed nut.
So at first I thought I may need to drill out or remove two of the nuts , put the bumper on the support bar and then install the support bar and bolt on the inside accessing from the trunk .
B U T
Those nuts are not accessible from the trunk ( or anywhere ) they’re inside this frame rail thingy.
So I’m at a loss for now .
Fixed studs

Non/removable nuts
Studs line up with hole perfectly
Nuts are inside this square welded tubing inside the trunk .

Could you use some of these (link below), weld them to the car side and then use nuts on the bumper?
https://www.jhpfasteners.com/weld-studs ... -l-en.html
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Re: Pat's 1983 URQ Alpine white #603 , 20V in progress
Posted: Thu Jun 28, 2018 12:14 am
by the german
Pretty weld recipe:
15 CFH + lanthinated tungsten + gas lens. Torch evenly and taste the rainbow.
Re: Pat's 1983 URQ Alpine white #603 , 20V in progress
Posted: Thu Jun 28, 2018 12:21 am
by the german
for the bumper, I would mod the bumper bar before the car. Can you just cut the studs off, drill holes, and bolt into the captured nuts already in the car?
Re: Pat's 1983 URQ Alpine white #603 , 20V in progress
Posted: Thu Jun 28, 2018 8:44 am
by Afterthought
the german wrote:Pretty weld recipe:
15 CFH + lanthinated tungsten + gas lens. Torch evenly and taste the rainbow.
That’s what I had . 15 CFH and 2% lanthanated .Maybe I need to use a different rod or something . I can tell it’s when I add more rod that it turns gray.
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Re: Pat's 1983 URQ Alpine white #603 , 20V in progress
Posted: Thu Jun 28, 2018 8:48 am
by Afterthought
On the bumper , since the European cars do not have bumper shocks it turns out they don’t even have that big square tube running to the bumper .
I really hate to cut anything on the car but it’s the only way that’s going to go on there Properly .
Once the bumper is on the car there is no way to access the bolts between the bumper and support bar because the bumper closes the gap .
The only other possible way I could think of is leave the nuts in the trunk but add an access hole to the bumper and use stock bumper plugs to fill it .

m
Which would be ugly and the plugs wouldn’t fit right ! BecUse the shape is different .
Re: Pat's 1983 URQ Alpine white #603 , 20V in progress
Posted: Thu Jun 28, 2018 11:56 am
by audifreakjim
Any way you can make a bracket to use a pinch bolt from below like the newer cars?
Re: Pat's 1983 URQ Alpine white #603 , 20V in progress
Posted: Thu Jun 28, 2018 8:01 pm
by Afterthought
audifreakjim wrote:Any way you can make a bracket to use a pinch bolt from below like the newer cars?
Hmm that’s a great idea . Thanks !
I may be able to do something like that . I can’t access from directly below but I may be able to make a bracket off the car and then access from below the lower.
This is how it was done in one of my other cars . Once you posted that it made me think to look. 2 pc bracket like this would work.

. Anything I can do to avoid drilling a hole in the car is a plus .
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Re: Pat's 1983 URQ Alpine white #603 , 20V in progress
Posted: Thu Jun 28, 2018 8:02 pm
by Afterthought
audifreakjim wrote:Any way you can make a bracket to use a pinch bolt from below like the newer cars?
Hmm that’s a great idea . Thanks !
I may be able to do something like that . I can’t access from directly below but I may be able to make a bracket off the car and then access from below the lower.
This is how it was done in one of my other cars . Once you posted that it made me think to look. 2 pc bracket like this would work.

. Anything I can do to avoid drilling a hole in the car is a plus .
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Re: Pat's 1983 URQ Alpine white #603 , 20V in progress
Posted: Thu Jun 28, 2018 8:09 pm
by Afterthought
Spent a ton of time today feel like I accomplished little but everything is time consuming .
First I took care of the rest of the hood.
Then I polished the spoiler.
Then put the hood on and started the alignment process. I have the hood set in place now where t needs to be but one fender needs to come out just a smidgeon(see pics below) .
Also finished the headlight harness . Now everything works perfect and is properly relayed and grounded .
I used a 3 relay box so I have individual fuse and relay for each high bulb and the lows .

m
Cleaned bottom of hood while I had the opportunity . Replaced washer nozzle tubing with new.
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Re: Pat's 1983 URQ Alpine white #603 , 20V in progress
Posted: Thu Jun 28, 2018 8:21 pm
by ringbearer
Looks so good!
Re: Pat's 1983 URQ Alpine white #603 , 20V in progress
Posted: Fri Jun 29, 2018 10:43 am
by audifreakjim
Looking great Pat, is it coming to BBQ:

Re: Pat's 1983 URQ Alpine white #603 , 20V in progress
Posted: Fri Jun 29, 2018 2:42 pm
by Afterthought
audifreakjim wrote:Looking great Pat, is it coming to BBQ:

I’m not sure yet, that’s a long drive for me and I have a really busy year .
I want to get the car on the road and get it tuned and put it to the test soon and see what else needs attention.
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Re: Pat's 1983 URQ Alpine white #603 , 20V in progress
Posted: Fri Jun 29, 2018 3:21 pm
by dana
drive it to BBQ!! I was so happy I made such an epic trip in an old audi. Been a dream for a long time, you won't regret it.
Pat's 1983 URQ Alpine white #603 , 20V in progress
Posted: Fri Jun 29, 2018 5:36 pm
by Afterthought
dana wrote:drive it to BBQ!! I was so happy I made such an epic trip in an old audi. Been a dream for a long time, you won't regret it.
I remember talking to you about that . It’s a lot longer drive for you last time I drove to Vegas it took me about 22 hours to go the long way .
But we’ll see I need to get the car to a point where I can be confident in it’s mechanical abilities to go that far through the desert without passing any auto parts stores
Re: Pat's 1983 URQ Alpine white #603 , 20V in progress
Posted: Wed Aug 15, 2018 9:46 pm
by Afterthought
Haven’t done much on the car lately, unfortunately .
Road tested the car some .
Started assembling the interior and I’m still somewhat stuck on getting the hood/fenders/hood latch all adjusted properly .
I spent some time to get the gauges laid out but then realized that these nice auto meter gauges are just going to stand out , as in they don’t match the look of the car.
Found some more period correct gauges but of course they don’t come with any sending units so I will now have to backtrack I guess and figure out what sending unit goes with the VDO gauges for oil pressure and water temp. But it will be a more period correct appearance for sure .
Current gauges:
New VDO instrumentation
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