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Bill's 200 20v, rebuild underway

Posted: Thu Oct 19, 2017 7:15 am
by audios
That could be, Ill ask Casey how he oriented them when installing. Here is the catch can/ccv set up. Although now I have the two lines going to BMW oil air separator's

I was told my my friend Ivan that i should not be venting out of the VC but only the block and he suggested doing what he on his 4ktq 20v where he had the return to the oil pan above the oil level. im still waiting on pics of his set up....

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Bill's 200 20v, rebuild underway

Posted: Sat Oct 21, 2017 6:29 pm
by audios
Pulled the piston rings today, seems to be some buildup behind the oil ring, does this look normal? Also the oil ring seems to be smaller in diameter than the middle and talk ring. Normally the VW/Audi oil rings work great and I do not change them, but think I may change these over


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Re: Bill's 200 20v, rebuild underway

Posted: Sun Oct 22, 2017 6:17 pm
by audios
Pulled the rest of the Pistons and rods tonight, cylinder walls on three and five look scored. ImageImage




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Re: Bill's 200 20v, rebuild underway

Posted: Sun Oct 22, 2017 6:18 pm
by audios
Pulled the rest of the Pistons and rods tonight, cylinder walls on three and five look scored. ImageImage




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Re: Bill's 200 20v, rebuild underway

Posted: Mon Oct 23, 2017 7:21 pm
by audios
Found that the top ring was broken in cylinder number four. Looking to purchase rod bearings and the ultimate crankcase breather vent adapter from Marc at EFI express Image


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Re: Bill's 200 20v, rebuild underway

Posted: Mon Oct 23, 2017 8:01 pm
by PRY4SNO
How deep is the scoring? Tough to tell but looks like it should hone out without requiring a full rebore?

Re: Bill's 200 20v, rebuild underway

Posted: Mon Oct 23, 2017 8:16 pm
by audios
Found that the top ring was broken in cylinder number four. Looking to purchase rod bearings and the ultimate crankcase breather vent adapter from Marc at EFI express Image


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Re: Bill's 200 20v, rebuild underway

Posted: Tue Oct 24, 2017 7:15 am
by WOMBAT
The poor leak down is making a lot of sense... Glad you're making her new and proper.

Re: Bill's 200 20v, rebuild underway

Posted: Sun Nov 12, 2017 6:17 pm
by audios
Soaking the pistons in seafoam to clean them up, seems to be working wellImage


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Re: Bill's 200 20v, rebuild underway

Posted: Mon Nov 13, 2017 5:43 pm
by audios
There is definitely some build up in the ring-lands, especially the oil ring. the severity seems to correspond to the leak down #'s. dosent want to clean up with the nylon brushes, will have to look up best way to clean w/o damaging pistons

Re: Bill's 200 20v, rebuild underway

Posted: Tue Nov 14, 2017 9:36 am
by dana
Bill, I have a piston ring groove cleaning tool, works pretty well. Looks like this.
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Re: Bill's 200 20v, rebuild underway

Posted: Thu Nov 16, 2017 6:00 pm
by audios
been doing a bit of reading, what do you all think of this :

http://www.angelfire.com/biz/snwvlly/bikes/dnthone.htm

Basically saying that you dont need to break the glaze or hone for the new rings...... just trying to make the best decision possible

Re: Bill's 200 20v, rebuild underway

Posted: Tue Nov 21, 2017 7:24 pm
by audios
Gave a shot at ball honing tonight. Used A flex hone 240 grit , my first time. Hatching pattern is not perfect, but more alarming is these two scratches on cylinder three and five…ImageImage


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Re: Bill's 200 20v, rebuild underway

Posted: Wed Nov 22, 2017 2:39 pm
by audifreakjim
Can you catch your fingernail on those? I mean, they are going to effect compression and leak down, but hard to say how much. Looks like some rings were not de-burred during the gapping process.

Re: Bill's 200 20v, rebuild underway

Posted: Fri Nov 24, 2017 5:09 pm
by audios
Not sure, I did not assemble motor, I figured it would effect a bit. I plan to just run it and build good breather. Image


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Re: Bill's 200 20v, rebuild underway

Posted: Tue Nov 28, 2017 4:19 pm
by audios
Out of the garage at the farm, getting ready to make the voyage to my houseImageImage


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Bill's 200 20v, rebuild underway

Posted: Tue Nov 28, 2017 6:47 pm
by Afterthought
I never did figure out for myself the exact proper way to set up an aftermarket catch can ...
do you have a source of vacuum pulling through it to the intake ?

My car project isn’t running yet , At the advice of some others I have set mine up to collect everything and I will drain it myself rather than running it directly to the pan .
Some were finding some pretty weird milky substance in there that they didn’t want ending up in the pan so I figured I would run it for a bit and see . Maybe someone more experienced on here has some advice.
A pic for reference from quattroworld URS4 FAQ
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Re: Bill's 200 20v, rebuild underway

Posted: Tue Dec 05, 2017 10:37 pm
by PRY4SNO
That milky substance should be an emulsion of water vapour in the oil.

Re: Bill's 200 20v, rebuild underway

Posted: Tue Dec 12, 2017 8:26 pm
by audios
Just got back with the new van, snow on the white car
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Re: Bill's 200 20v, rebuild underway

Posted: Wed Dec 13, 2017 6:54 pm
by audios
Installed piston rings tonight, also looked at the oil pick up tube. Found a lot of little plastic pieces. There were quite a few more than even in this picture…Image


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Re: Bill's 200 20v, rebuild underway

Posted: Thu Dec 14, 2017 12:55 am
by Aktapod
Those plastic pieces are pretty common. I'd bet they're the remains of the cam splash shield that sat under the oil fill cap. They pretty much all disintegrate eventually and end up in the sump.

Great work on the car! Jealous of the snow too

Re: Bill's 200 20v, rebuild underway

Posted: Fri Dec 15, 2017 7:55 pm
by audios
Put on the new rod bearings tonight, took a few photos of the rod/ cap of cylinders 1&2 although they all looked similar. Any ideas of the possible cause of the markings?
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Re: Bill's 200 20v, rebuild underway

Posted: Sat Dec 16, 2017 7:42 pm
by audios
Started on my take of a windage tray, based on Ian's (slacker20vt on MG)
http://www.motorgeek.com/viewtopic.php?t=23462
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Re: Bill's 200 20v, rebuild underway

Posted: Tue Jan 02, 2018 7:11 pm
by audios
A bit more progress Image


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Re: Bill's 200 20v, rebuild underway

Posted: Thu Jan 04, 2018 3:25 pm
by audios
Still not done, but bolted up.... Image


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