Shawn's '86 GTI: The Rock

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Shawn's '86 GTI: The Rock

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So this project is as titled for a couple reasons. One is after a column that once appeared in Sport Compact Car (best magazine ever) about how people skip straight to trying to make big hp and throwing $1k suspension setups without even having basic car control skills. Second reason is because this car has been a "rock" in my car collection. It was the second car I ever bought (after my old Nissan 200sx some of you may remember) and I have had it since. I love MKII's and this one will never leave me :D

So, background, this was my first "project car," it originally ran with a 3A bottom end, shaved/cam'd head on CIS with a 2.25" exhaust, intake etc. It got a respray in the factory Alpine White during this build and a bunch of interior changes, including a cow pattern headliner. It ended up totally grenading that motor, so I tried to and failed at an ABA turbo conversion. Then the plan changed again when I became briefly obsessed with "stancetard" cars and at the same time found 3/4 floor pans totally missing. So I built a rotisserie for the car, fixed the floors, stripped the engine bay and... let it sit for 5yrs.

That brings us up to about a month ago.

I moved home after living in Maryland since ~2010 with plans to start on this car again. Plan was a quattro conversion, but after going to my first auto-x since before I put this on a rotisserie and got rehooked on motorsports and decided I want to go fast again, no point trying to build a fast street car if you never get to use it :3gears:

Plan is to finish it soon, get to a few auto-xs and hillclimbs this year and run the entire NEHA hillclimb schedule next year by which point it will have received a full DOM cage.

Current/Planned build spec:
OBDI ABA bottom end
1.8l 16v cylinder head with a few backyard "tweaks" by yours truly
Factory in tank and main fuel pumps
-accumulator deleted
Megasquirt Fuel/Ignition control

Stitch welded front strut towers
Seam welded rear towers
MK3 front control arms/rear beam, adds ~1" of track width
-Control arms were seam welded and recieved R32/TT factory upgrade bushings, stock (old) front CA bushings
MK3 front axles
Full front MK3 spindles/brakes w/ brand new wheel bearings + rotors (10.1" rotors and bigger single piston calipers
-EBC Yellowstuff track pads
MK2 rear disc setup on MK3 beam w/MK4 AL calipers and best condition used wheel bearings/rotors I had
-Stock pads (trying to keep front to rear balance)
One coil cut MK3 rear springs (pretty stiff)
Stock MK2 front springs, will change to MK3 or VR fronts
Whatever shocks came from the TDI for the rear, junkyard new(ish) Blauparts front shocks
Factory MK2 front sway bar (teeny tiny)
MK3 front sway bar custom mounted on rear beam

Need/undecided on:
16v exhaust manifold
16v intake manifold
rest of the exhaust

Original "snowflake" alloy wheels
Set of used but good shape Hoosier R6 in 205/50/14 flavor :D

So on to some pics. I've spent a hellacious amount of time cleaning, degreasing and painting stuff. Almost everything you see here was part of my (way to large) parts stash, was bartered/got for free from friends, or purchaced in the junkyard. I should be <$500 event ready without a cage. I still need a few key parts but it's getting far enough along I figured I'd throw a thread up.

The track-width-widening donor, many thanks to Dana:
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Bartered a day's work for this baby:
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Floors finished, will get white paint:
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Getting stitch welded:
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Back in primer:
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Hubs before/after:
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Hubs sand blasted:
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... Well, lots more has been done, car is currently a roller again but my phone is refusing to send emails right now so when they finally go through (probably tomorrow... ugh) I'll throw some more pics up of the progress. I'm working on wiring now, hoping to have what will remain of the factory harness back in place tomorrow day so I can start building the custom half from there. Should be fun building a race dash, I have lotsa ideas :)

Thank you for reading along!
Last edited by vt10vt on Thu Jul 17, 2014 10:19 pm, edited 2 times in total.
-Shawn C.
2001 S4 6spd Avant blk/blk - stock daily
2002 01E B6 A4 Built FYF, Built 1.8T, HX35 ~330whp
1989 MC-1 200 Avant- MS1 -Gone but will never forget her lessons
1987 5ktq Sedan - Best $500 beater ever
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Re: Shawn's '86 GTI: The Rock

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Miss my alpine Gti.
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scubagli wrote:Miss my alpine Gti.

Best. Color. Ever.

My friend did the actual respray and it looks GREAT when it's all clean and shined up, which will be soon for the first time in a long time!
-Shawn C.
2001 S4 6spd Avant blk/blk - stock daily
2002 01E B6 A4 Built FYF, Built 1.8T, HX35 ~330whp
1989 MC-1 200 Avant- MS1 -Gone but will never forget her lessons
1987 5ktq Sedan - Best $500 beater ever
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I remember you talking about this. Will be great to see it come to life again. Looking forward to your updates!
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turbo tractor spotted
current:
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vt10vt wrote:
scubagli wrote:Miss my alpine Gti.

Best. Color. Ever.

My friend did the actual respray and it looks GREAT when it's all clean and shined up, which will be soon for the first time in a long time!

Montana Green is my fav, but alpine is a close second. I have a very special place in my heart for mkii's. Great to see a resto!
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I just sold my Mars Red Westy. :shame:

Having two projects going at once wasn't working for me! Interested in the updates!
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Putting the head back on my 9A 16v 84 GTI tonight! fun little cars, definitely need more cam.
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dana wrote:turbo tractor spotted


LOL...as soon as I saw this I heard the tractor and the turbo spool from the video you put up a while back. So badass.
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Miss my Montana green ABF clone :(
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Wow! Didn't expect so much interest in this, thanks guys!

Turbo Tractor is awesome, we probably could have been a bit more gentle and a bit less sketchy, but we on'y lost the jetta off the bucket once which was more than enough.

Okay, time for a photo bomb.

First, in response to the "needs more cam" statement, you may recognize what's going on here ;)
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So front hubs/spindles assembled with new wheel bearings:
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Rear brakes mockup, I later blasted the caliper brackets:
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Resealed rear calipers:
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Rear sway bar outer mounting points:
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Center mounts:
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Ready to rock:
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Front subframe coming together:
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Front suspension in:
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Rear end in and fuel system going in:
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Rear track width with wider MK3 suspension parts:
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Brake master in and main lines run. Just need to flare a couple lines on the rear beam and good to go:
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Ready to come down after forever:
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Rolling:
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Fun parts...

Hoosiers and EBC Yellowstuffs:
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only 3 axles that actually fit the length I need but lots of spare CV's around:
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And a random pic of the 5k with my buddy's brand new 5.0l. It walked the 5k hard, except when we went from a stop, in which case I had him through the top of 2nd. quattro>rwd two step
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-Shawn C.
2001 S4 6spd Avant blk/blk - stock daily
2002 01E B6 A4 Built FYF, Built 1.8T, HX35 ~330whp
1989 MC-1 200 Avant- MS1 -Gone but will never forget her lessons
1987 5ktq Sedan - Best $500 beater ever
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vt10vt wrote:So this project is as titled for a couple reasons. One is after a column that once appeared in Sport Compact Car (best magazine ever) about how people skip straight to trying to make big hp and throwing $1k suspension setups without even having basic car control skills.


First thought: Well, yeah, if they had basic car control skills, they wouldn't be going all-engine no-suspension...

Second thought: Maybe I should stop hanging out with rally people who think it's normal to spend $3k/corner on suspension.
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Noisy Cricket wrote:First thought: Well, yeah, if they had basic car control skills, they wouldn't be going all-engine no-suspension...

Second thought: Maybe I should stop hanging out with rally people who think it's normal to spend $3k/corner on suspension.

You're missing the point which is that is people get caught up with building/buying the most badass car they can without actually being able to drive it. You need to learn to "handle the rock" ie driving a slow car fast if you really want to develop your driving skillz properly.

Same applies to rally, it's just a more expensive form of motorsports to begin with, which is why I'm not building a rally car. But look at overall results and the Group 2 cars that run up in the top 10 overall, those guys are the ones that are/are going to develop into great drivers. I would never build an Audi to go rallying, if you really want to be a competitive rally driver, you build an Impreza or a GTI becasue the off-the-shelf suspension options allow you to save that other $1.5k for events. Great example of a giantkiller of a driver: http://rally-america.com/drivers/view/ra-1449

In the scheme of a racecar budget, $$=seat time. In my opinion, if you enter a competitive event and any less expensive/less powerful/less built car beats you, you're doing it wrong :)
-Shawn C.
2001 S4 6spd Avant blk/blk - stock daily
2002 01E B6 A4 Built FYF, Built 1.8T, HX35 ~330whp
1989 MC-1 200 Avant- MS1 -Gone but will never forget her lessons
1987 5ktq Sedan - Best $500 beater ever
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Ok so got a little bit more done as I have work starting tomorrow. Main focus of the weekend was getting it ready to be pushed into storage which meant a lot of cleaning up after myself and organizing everything back into place. Got the entire interior cleaned out which was a chore, and got the many little rust spots that were popping up in check, then laid some paint down. Besides this I didn't get a whole lot done but realize it took me a solid 4-5hrs just cleaning the inside of the damn thing from years of dust/dirt/grime and then sandblast media and associated dust on top of that. Lot of time with a scotch brite, bucket of water and paper towels just prepping for prep.

I also had a decent bit of tar paper and a lot of that furry insulation stuff left around. Well, no more! There is now zero sound deadening/tar mat/insulation in the car. This process also took quite a while. Can't wait to weigh this thing :D

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As you can see, there were a lot of little spots where rust was coming up through the paint. With it being a racecar that will rarely-never see street time I probably didn't need to deal with this but I'm glad I did. These pics are all after cleaning and priming so doesn't really do it justice as to how bad it was in there.
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So fresh and so clean *clean*
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You can see the dash all stripped down in this one, the top was pretty much covered in fur.
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Thanks for reading along! :)
-Shawn C.
2001 S4 6spd Avant blk/blk - stock daily
2002 01E B6 A4 Built FYF, Built 1.8T, HX35 ~330whp
1989 MC-1 200 Avant- MS1 -Gone but will never forget her lessons
1987 5ktq Sedan - Best $500 beater ever
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