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Beat to death: 01E into small chassis

Posted: Sun Jul 12, 2015 8:09 am
by Noisy Cricket
I've decided that I don't want to use my welded up 60-2 wheel after all. I'm worried about crank harmonics shaking it apart and leaving me stranded somewhere. (20vt engine)

So what I am thinking is: 2.7t flywheel for the integrated 60-2. Of course this won't work with an 016 since the crank sensor hole doesn't exist. Fortunately I found an untapped source of 4.11 geared 01Es so they are cheap and not stupid expensive. Perfect.

Wat do? Searching for this kind of info ends up being fruitless. I do *not* want to do any kind of hub conversion, it seems most people who put in 01E are also converting to/already have five lug hubs. I want to keep the 4x100 hubs for various logistical reasons.

Re: Beat to death: 01E into small chassis

Posted: Sun Jul 12, 2015 10:37 am
by Mcstiff
Janis was 4x108.

The B5S4 flywheel will require the bellhousing spacer.

Re: Beat to death: 01E into small chassis

Posted: Sun Jul 12, 2015 10:55 am
by Noisy Cricket
That would be no big deal, I think. I note that the 3 liter also used the spacer as far as I've seen, and the B6 3.0 is the donor vehicle for the 01E, so everything should be fine there. So it would be mandatory for my purposes anyway (need it for the crank sensor)

I wonder what that would do for driveshaft length. I'd rather move the trans back than the engine forward.

Re: Beat to death: 01E into small chassis

Posted: Sun Jul 12, 2015 3:17 pm
by PRY4SNO
If your car came with the metal one have it shortened and balanced, instead of sourcing a 4kq propshaft.

Re: Beat to death: 01E into small chassis

Posted: Sun Jul 12, 2015 3:21 pm
by deaner
I've got a 5 speed 01E in my 4000. There are TONS of threads on the swap. http://www.motorgeek.com/viewtopic.php?f=15&t=31240

Mines with 2 piece susp and 4x108...
Iroz mounts
Bashed tunnel/firewall and made URs shifter work
B5 Quattro rear diff axle flanges
Planning on having DS shortened(I have a b3 shaft, long story..)

Re: Beat to death: 01E into small chassis

Posted: Sun Jul 12, 2015 3:57 pm
by Noisy Cricket
PRY4SNO wrote:If your car came with the metal one have it shortened and balanced, instead of sourcing a 4kq propshaft.


It's a Quantum syncro. Already has a 4kq driveshaft :)

The last two times I visited Motorgeek for anything, I got attacked by malware. Both times were at work, we use Chrome at work, Chrome will happily download malware and then ask you to run it.

Re: Beat to death: 01E into small chassis

Posted: Sun Jul 12, 2015 6:42 pm
by speeding-g60
sooooo. untapped source for 01E's?????

any parts? i am short a couple pieces.....

other than that, what i did to fit forged control arms on the rear required moving the rear subframe back (to get the wheel centered in the arches) and thus moving the rear diff forward (to keep the DS length the same). i suppose at that point i could have just tossed in one of the many CQ DS's i have on hand, and not moved the diff forward again..... hindsight is always 20/20.
you could just move the rear diff back in the subframe to account for spacing or length differences, i would think.

Re: Beat to death: 01E into small chassis

Posted: Sun Jul 12, 2015 7:01 pm
by Mcstiff
speeding-g60 wrote:sooooo. untapped source for 01E's?????

any parts? i am short a couple pieces.....

He's talking the B6 V6s which have 01es

Re: Beat to death: 01E into small chassis

Posted: Sun Jul 12, 2015 7:12 pm
by Noisy Cricket
speeding-g60 wrote:sooooo. untapped source for 01E's?????

any parts? i am short a couple pieces.....


No parts but I found whole assembles from certain models and I can find them on car-part for $500-1000 in a 200 mile radius, which is the next best thing to free around these parts. S4 transmissions are like $1500-2000.

you could just move the rear diff back in the subframe to account for spacing or length differences, i would think.


Not an option on the QSW without a ton of work, the diff is part of the subframe and the rear bushing is the rear subframe mount. We have swing arms and beneficial toe-out under load like a BMW or Porsche, not struts. Side effect of the chassis being an AWD-converted FWD floorpan.

Re: Beat to death: 01E into small chassis

Posted: Sun Jul 12, 2015 7:37 pm
by speeding-g60
Oh yeah. Forgot that Syncro shit......

Re: Beat to death: 01E into small chassis

Posted: Sun Jul 12, 2015 8:42 pm
by deaner
speeding-g60 wrote:sooooo. untapped source for 01E's?????

any parts? i am short a couple pieces.....

other than that, what i did to fit forged control arms on the rear required moving the rear subframe back (to get the wheel centered in the arches) and thus moving the rear diff forward (to keep the DS length the same). i suppose at that point i could have just tossed in one of the many CQ DS's i have on hand, and not moved the diff forward again..... hindsight is always 20/20.
you could just move the rear diff back in the subframe to account for spacing or length differences, i would think.



How much are you able to move the diff?